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Posted June 26, 2011 by Paul Foss
I am sure this is not the most treasured subject to most. No one likes to deal with "death." Please don't take the no one as an absolute. I can think of at least two groups of people who love it, the undertakers and morticians. Without death they would be out of job. But seriously, in our limited consciousness we trust our senses, which tell us someone died. This can not happen when we "die." We then have no sensory inputs, so we look at the real life. One would need to ask, where is the feelings located, in the body or in our spiritual being we are. This part that survives the disintegration of the house we call body. Where is the mind if not in the body. Where is the real life and what is it? We lived with dying around us for so long and surprisingly we still want to live. Where is the secret of life?
I like to present a discussion about life. I have "died" more then once in this present body and therefore know beyond any doubt I am alive after "death." But I also know there is so much more to find out about who I am. Friend of mine have given me a book to read, "The Origins of Man and the Universe." I recommend this book to anyone seriously considering to know himself. I am sure this book is not a bestseller. It put it too plainly into the readers lap.
"I am responsible for everything happening in my life."
This is what we try so hard to avoid, the admission of responsibility. So I am giving you a choice to read and do, or to ignore. And blame the world for what happens. But please be aware that if you assign other for your life you will not be able to change anything. You will be at the mercy of the world, like a rag in the wind. Like a ship without a rudder, going aimlessly about.
On that note, fair well on your journeys. You all part of all.
Love as always Paul
I like to present a discussion about life. I have "died" more then once in this present body and therefore know beyond any doubt I am alive after "death." But I also know there is so much more to find out about who I am. Friend of mine have given me a book to read, "The Origins of Man and the Universe." I recommend this book to anyone seriously considering to know himself. I am sure this book is not a bestseller. It put it too plainly into the readers lap.
"I am responsible for everything happening in my life."
This is what we try so hard to avoid, the admission of responsibility. So I am giving you a choice to read and do, or to ignore. And blame the world for what happens. But please be aware that if you assign other for your life you will not be able to change anything. You will be at the mercy of the world, like a rag in the wind. Like a ship without a rudder, going aimlessly about.
On that note, fair well on your journeys. You all part of all.
Love as always Paul
Vikas Rai wrote at November 6, 2011
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Paul I put in some comments and examples earlier...can you put in your comments too. What you think of these.
Want to check if that's just not sheer out of my imagination!!
Want to check if that's just not sheer out of my imagination!!
Erin Strandjord wrote at October 13, 2011
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oh Paul, you are so right.
When you do that, it gives them nothing to hook into and react to.
Love defuses it all.
When you do that, it gives them nothing to hook into and react to.
Love defuses it all.
Paul Foss wrote at October 13, 2011
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Tell that to someone dying, or someone really angry, and you're likely to get punched in the snoot. Personally, when it feels bad, I just want someone else to blame and my friends to be on my side. It's juvenile and irrational, but it's true.
You don't tell them, just love them. Anger can not defeat love. I know it sound silly facing a raging man, but if you lose fear and just look at him in love he will break down. I used to drive bus in the most volatile environment possible. Drugs nd alcohol. Lot of abusers on the bus after 10pm, believe me. I used to look them in their eyes when they came on and smile at them. I had never trouble. But don't take me too seriously.
You don't tell them, just love them. Anger can not defeat love. I know it sound silly facing a raging man, but if you lose fear and just look at him in love he will break down. I used to drive bus in the most volatile environment possible. Drugs nd alcohol. Lot of abusers on the bus after 10pm, believe me. I used to look them in their eyes when they came on and smile at them. I had never trouble. But don't take me too seriously.
Quantamama wrote at October 13, 2011
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I agree, Paul, we're dying all the time. Better laugh and love while we have the chance.
I've never had an NDE, though I've been out of my body. I really had little exposure to death, I didn't go to any funerals as a child, none of my close family members died. My first real experience was few years ago when my Grandpa died.
He was always more my father than anyone in my life, he was who I turned to when I really needed help. The physical experience of grief was devastating. I now understand what wracked with grief really means.
Intellectually, I learned a lot and I feel he taught me how to die properly. All love, no fear. I talk to him frequently and I feel his presence in my life still. And yet 2 years later, I can still cry over his death.
Intellectually, I understand that this body is only on loan. I know that I am more than this body and that part of me doesn't die. I do not fear death.
And yet, in my every action I consciously make the decision to be alive and to protect the lives of my family. I don't want to die just yet.
Yet life is uncomfortable. And the most uncomfortable point is that I am responsible for everything in my life. No one embroiled in the drama of life wants to hear that "you chose everything you're getting."
Tell that to someone dying, or someone really angry, and you're likely to get punched in the snoot. Personally, when it feels bad, I just want someone else to blame and my friends to be on my side. It's juvenile and irrational, but it's true.
Being able to move from the childish emotional reaction to the adult intellectual or spiritual perspective takes practice. (Gosh I'm so blessed, life keeps throwing me experiences to practice on.) Erin is right, teaching personal responsibility to our kids would be of great use to our race.
I've never had an NDE, though I've been out of my body. I really had little exposure to death, I didn't go to any funerals as a child, none of my close family members died. My first real experience was few years ago when my Grandpa died.
He was always more my father than anyone in my life, he was who I turned to when I really needed help. The physical experience of grief was devastating. I now understand what wracked with grief really means.
Intellectually, I learned a lot and I feel he taught me how to die properly. All love, no fear. I talk to him frequently and I feel his presence in my life still. And yet 2 years later, I can still cry over his death.
Intellectually, I understand that this body is only on loan. I know that I am more than this body and that part of me doesn't die. I do not fear death.
And yet, in my every action I consciously make the decision to be alive and to protect the lives of my family. I don't want to die just yet.
Yet life is uncomfortable. And the most uncomfortable point is that I am responsible for everything in my life. No one embroiled in the drama of life wants to hear that "you chose everything you're getting."
Tell that to someone dying, or someone really angry, and you're likely to get punched in the snoot. Personally, when it feels bad, I just want someone else to blame and my friends to be on my side. It's juvenile and irrational, but it's true.
Being able to move from the childish emotional reaction to the adult intellectual or spiritual perspective takes practice. (Gosh I'm so blessed, life keeps throwing me experiences to practice on.) Erin is right, teaching personal responsibility to our kids would be of great use to our race.
Erin Strandjord wrote at October 13, 2011
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I think this is a great topic. For whatever reason, I cannot remember ever fearing death, just being curious about it.
then , after my car accident, I definitely went to "the other side "
I was not pronounced officially dead after my car accident but I was extremely close. I do have a memory though of where "I" was when my body was failing.
SO, I absolutely know now that the body is not all there is.
I don't really know. What exactly is the mind?? is it the seat of our soul? I think it definitely moves in and out of the many levels of perception that make up the Field of existence.
And there is Mind: the stuff of dreams and the soul
and there is mind:both analytical and feeling
and then there is the "monkey mind" that distracts us with
it's incessant chatter, fears, and other distractions.
We constantly navigate between these three states of mind.
And yes, there is also the issue of being self-responsible.
I think if there were a healthy, loving way to teach self-responsibilty in schools this would be a much different planet!
Sometimes it only comes through long experience and the wisdom of time.
then , after my car accident, I definitely went to "the other side "
I was not pronounced officially dead after my car accident but I was extremely close. I do have a memory though of where "I" was when my body was failing.
SO, I absolutely know now that the body is not all there is.
I don't really know. What exactly is the mind?? is it the seat of our soul? I think it definitely moves in and out of the many levels of perception that make up the Field of existence.
And there is Mind: the stuff of dreams and the soul
and there is mind:both analytical and feeling
and then there is the "monkey mind" that distracts us with
it's incessant chatter, fears, and other distractions.
We constantly navigate between these three states of mind.
And yes, there is also the issue of being self-responsible.
I think if there were a healthy, loving way to teach self-responsibilty in schools this would be a much different planet!
Sometimes it only comes through long experience and the wisdom of time.
Paul Foss wrote at October 13, 2011
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In the beginning there was the word and the word was with god, the word was god.
As I said elsewhere, the Will has created mind, and we witnessing the evolution of that mind. Been part of the mind individually and part of the whole. Soul is the essence of the mind. We just use the mind differently at different times. That is the great difference between us here. Just think of you dreaming, you still have mind, in different mode. And when you "die" yo will still be that mind. Soul, I better leave it by that, otherwise I am embroiled in huge disagreement. I say just one thing, the soul is not necessary immortal. We can lose the soul.
As I said elsewhere, the Will has created mind, and we witnessing the evolution of that mind. Been part of the mind individually and part of the whole. Soul is the essence of the mind. We just use the mind differently at different times. That is the great difference between us here. Just think of you dreaming, you still have mind, in different mode. And when you "die" yo will still be that mind. Soul, I better leave it by that, otherwise I am embroiled in huge disagreement. I say just one thing, the soul is not necessary immortal. We can lose the soul.
Vikas Rai wrote at October 13, 2011
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Another small example,
Did you see on discovery channel - in ocean group of thousands of fishes swim and how they react when some big fish attack it - it responds with such coordination as done by our left and right hand, although, no one is looking at others. Do you think this is only a coordination? That to coordination without communication??
You know the reality, actually all these fishes are consciously one being, that's why they are able to respond in exactly that way.
Another example,
Have you seen bamboo trees. When it dries, whole forest dries at in one go, no matter whether plant is 1 year of 10 years old. How do the plant know that the others are drying.
Actually, plants dont dry, they die, they are leaving being. Whole bamboo forest behaves as one soul, they are in a way so attached, hence, when death comes, it impacts every one, since they are not every one, but just one.
And this oneness can be achieved, by any leaving being. And it can actually make two as one. Have you seen, you somehow know when your very loved ones are not well. Have you sometimes heard if one spouse dies, the partner too dies soon after.
There are countless examples, that we just ignore because we believe in 'doing', the outer word, the world of separation where we divide everything into pieces. This causes all ego and jealousy. And we are devoid of interconnection which is always there but we are never witness to that inner being and potential.
What is most important, we just igore it being too simple, daily routine or just ignorance.
Enought for today
Did you see on discovery channel - in ocean group of thousands of fishes swim and how they react when some big fish attack it - it responds with such coordination as done by our left and right hand, although, no one is looking at others. Do you think this is only a coordination? That to coordination without communication??
You know the reality, actually all these fishes are consciously one being, that's why they are able to respond in exactly that way.
Another example,
Have you seen bamboo trees. When it dries, whole forest dries at in one go, no matter whether plant is 1 year of 10 years old. How do the plant know that the others are drying.
Actually, plants dont dry, they die, they are leaving being. Whole bamboo forest behaves as one soul, they are in a way so attached, hence, when death comes, it impacts every one, since they are not every one, but just one.
And this oneness can be achieved, by any leaving being. And it can actually make two as one. Have you seen, you somehow know when your very loved ones are not well. Have you sometimes heard if one spouse dies, the partner too dies soon after.
There are countless examples, that we just ignore because we believe in 'doing', the outer word, the world of separation where we divide everything into pieces. This causes all ego and jealousy. And we are devoid of interconnection which is always there but we are never witness to that inner being and potential.
What is most important, we just igore it being too simple, daily routine or just ignorance.
Enought for today
Last Update on October 13, 2011 by Vikas Rai
Vikas Rai wrote at October 13, 2011
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One little realisation
Scientists used billions to slightly understand that this physical world is actually '99.999999%' un real and empty, probably more. Still they cannot pursuade common being.
But you can realise it yourself in one second - Do you see glass, transparent glass. No matter how thick it is, all light passes through it, that we are see through it. What does it prove, that all light is able to pass through it. Doesn't it mean, glass, although so dense in our view, like iron or anything else, still it is 100% hollow. Probably 99.999999999999999% if not 100%. Just imagine, when we say thick glass, that means light is crossing through trillions of atoms of glass, without being stopped by anything solid.
Scientists used billions to slightly understand that this physical world is actually '99.999999%' un real and empty, probably more. Still they cannot pursuade common being.
But you can realise it yourself in one second - Do you see glass, transparent glass. No matter how thick it is, all light passes through it, that we are see through it. What does it prove, that all light is able to pass through it. Doesn't it mean, glass, although so dense in our view, like iron or anything else, still it is 100% hollow. Probably 99.999999999999999% if not 100%. Just imagine, when we say thick glass, that means light is crossing through trillions of atoms of glass, without being stopped by anything solid.
Paul Foss wrote at November 7, 2011
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One more.
"wealth is not how much you have, but how much you share."
"wealth is not how much you have, but how much you share."
Paul Foss wrote at November 6, 2011
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To confuse the subject I point you to another mystery. Light in the physical world is electro magnetic radiation. As we know it penetrates deep into the earth and only known exclusion is Faraday cage. Yet when you close your eyes the light is gone. How could a layer of thin skin achieve that? Magic? Hardly.
The Way is to become single minded and once we are, uniting the mind with the heart. What is single mindness? When the left and right mind (represented by the left and right brain lobes), Adam and Eva, Ying and Yang are united as one. When the Princess kisses the frog. This in turn achieves all power, in other words we are then all KNOWLEDGE. but we still miss love, the moderator of all things. Love will create all power. No power can defeat the power of love. Once we achieved that we return to what we call god. We are all knowing, all powerful and all present. Notice I haven't mentioned all living. Why? Because we are not all living. We are life itself. Nothing can take life away from you or give it back to you. You are that life.
Life in material environment is purely for experiencing yourself. Become eternal individual of the whole. By EXPERIENCE!
Namaste Paul
The Way is to become single minded and once we are, uniting the mind with the heart. What is single mindness? When the left and right mind (represented by the left and right brain lobes), Adam and Eva, Ying and Yang are united as one. When the Princess kisses the frog. This in turn achieves all power, in other words we are then all KNOWLEDGE. but we still miss love, the moderator of all things. Love will create all power. No power can defeat the power of love. Once we achieved that we return to what we call god. We are all knowing, all powerful and all present. Notice I haven't mentioned all living. Why? Because we are not all living. We are life itself. Nothing can take life away from you or give it back to you. You are that life.
Life in material environment is purely for experiencing yourself. Become eternal individual of the whole. By EXPERIENCE!
Namaste Paul
Vikas Rai wrote at October 13, 2011
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What more, lets talk about illusion.
It can be discussed at countlesss layers, knowing even at few layers would do the needful. Once you know that every deeper layer is proving a myth, illusion, that's sufficient to reach a conclusion.
In fact, magic happens the moment the fact of physical layer is known. Unfortunately, no metter of intellectual knowledge can be worth a drop of experience. Key is how to experience, and answer is self study, being yourself, we are human 'being' and not human 'doing'.
It can be discussed at countlesss layers, knowing even at few layers would do the needful. Once you know that every deeper layer is proving a myth, illusion, that's sufficient to reach a conclusion.
In fact, magic happens the moment the fact of physical layer is known. Unfortunately, no metter of intellectual knowledge can be worth a drop of experience. Key is how to experience, and answer is self study, being yourself, we are human 'being' and not human 'doing'.
Paul Foss wrote at November 7, 2011
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We are living a dream. We are dreaming. Who ever we are. Not humans though.
Paul Foss wrote at November 7, 2011
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Maya means illusion. It is a paradox that we poring over the Maya calendar to find out what will happen to us. They knew we are living in an illusion here. They named themselves that way. True, we are living an illusion, but this illusion is very important to us. Without we would never be able to EXPERIENCE fear, unkindness, hate, loneliness, sadness .......
Fill your own words. Since the creation of the mind, we are rigorously testing its abilities and reliability, giving the mind an illusion of autonomy.
Namaste Paul
Fill your own words. Since the creation of the mind, we are rigorously testing its abilities and reliability, giving the mind an illusion of autonomy.
Namaste Paul
Vikas Rai wrote at October 13, 2011
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And moreover, as Paul always says, being is only important, doing is utterly opposite, utterly worthless and time wasting activity.
Doing is such a worthless activity that nothing, not even knowledge is achieved by it. Knowledge is not word-knowledge. Knowledge is by becoming one with subject which is to be known. For example, if I don't know sweeming, no amount of verbal reading can make me live that feeling.
And it is the reason of all misery. We want to be happy, by sensory means - reading, seeing etc. But this is very superficial level, although easy to obtain.
A little practice can make us capable of enjoying through mind. You know, you can enjoy everything just by visualising it, thinking about it. You can see it, hear it, feel it, smell it, all this withoug any physical effort. It become so easy. You can live whole life of any enjoyment stuff and finally reach to end where you really see no worth after being fully experienced it.
This is interesting, isn't it. Still this is not pinacle of joy. For reaching utopia, a permanent joy, it must go even further deeper, to the level of soul. Once you realise it, all other joy becomes unworthy of any attention.
And this is also achievable. What is required is being - this simply means looking at ourself. Just paying a real attention and analysis opens the door where nothing is left impossible. And this is opened by will to know yourself. This is the source of all knowledge and sword that can cut all illusions.
Once you experience this being self, current reality becomes illusion, because, you can make and break, play with it like a computer game. Life and death looses their contrast because you see yourself at/as the root of both.
All attachment to body looses value because body is experienced at numerous levels. Once we see that this is not the only body, there are still much more stronger bodies which cannot be destroyed by fire or water, all attachment to this body desolves without effort.
Allas, we shouldn't be afraid of death so that even in those rare times when we cross life and enter 'death', we can see and experience it. And this needn't be waited till death. People generally have plenty of opportunity, difficult times when they reach very close to this experience but loose their confidence, will and are not witness to such rare phenomenon.
Doing is such a worthless activity that nothing, not even knowledge is achieved by it. Knowledge is not word-knowledge. Knowledge is by becoming one with subject which is to be known. For example, if I don't know sweeming, no amount of verbal reading can make me live that feeling.
And it is the reason of all misery. We want to be happy, by sensory means - reading, seeing etc. But this is very superficial level, although easy to obtain.
A little practice can make us capable of enjoying through mind. You know, you can enjoy everything just by visualising it, thinking about it. You can see it, hear it, feel it, smell it, all this withoug any physical effort. It become so easy. You can live whole life of any enjoyment stuff and finally reach to end where you really see no worth after being fully experienced it.
This is interesting, isn't it. Still this is not pinacle of joy. For reaching utopia, a permanent joy, it must go even further deeper, to the level of soul. Once you realise it, all other joy becomes unworthy of any attention.
And this is also achievable. What is required is being - this simply means looking at ourself. Just paying a real attention and analysis opens the door where nothing is left impossible. And this is opened by will to know yourself. This is the source of all knowledge and sword that can cut all illusions.
Once you experience this being self, current reality becomes illusion, because, you can make and break, play with it like a computer game. Life and death looses their contrast because you see yourself at/as the root of both.
All attachment to body looses value because body is experienced at numerous levels. Once we see that this is not the only body, there are still much more stronger bodies which cannot be destroyed by fire or water, all attachment to this body desolves without effort.
Allas, we shouldn't be afraid of death so that even in those rare times when we cross life and enter 'death', we can see and experience it. And this needn't be waited till death. People generally have plenty of opportunity, difficult times when they reach very close to this experience but loose their confidence, will and are not witness to such rare phenomenon.
Vikas Rai wrote at October 13, 2011
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This is such a wonderful topic. I am glad I got a chance to write on this.
Not known why, but I always dreamt of dying by drawning in river. Somehow that feels so soothing to mind. But, now I am much grown up and just smile on old dreams.
But, I love life as much as I love and not fear death. More so ever, having experience so many of deadly experiences. I am convinced beyond doubt that death cannot come. And if it has to come, it cannot be prevented. It is true to the extent of jumping in front of a car, although I will not recommend it to try. Idea is to live life fully, without letting fear of death compromise you any way.
Not known why, but I always dreamt of dying by drawning in river. Somehow that feels so soothing to mind. But, now I am much grown up and just smile on old dreams.
But, I love life as much as I love and not fear death. More so ever, having experience so many of deadly experiences. I am convinced beyond doubt that death cannot come. And if it has to come, it cannot be prevented. It is true to the extent of jumping in front of a car, although I will not recommend it to try. Idea is to live life fully, without letting fear of death compromise you any way.
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